Changes Happening On Radio 2

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RockitRon

Red Baron said:
I actually don't mind Simon Mayo, I like his humour - I think it was just his 'posse' style of breakfast show and the awful music that was around at the time that really put me off R1.
Me too. Knew it was time to switch over when Donald Where's Your Troosers? started to sound good compared to nearly everything else :roll:
 
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mark occomore

As from next weekend Pete Mitchell and Mo Dutta overnight shows will only be on once a week? Mo is on 4-8am Saturdays, Pete 3-7am on Sundays. The one hour gap following Mark Lamar is filled by a repeat of the Mike Harding show and a repeat of Paul Jones following Bob Harris. Dermot starts at 2pm with Stuart gone. Russell Brand has an extra half hour to warm up Bob Harris although he doesn't need that these days. It's getting a slight crazy having repeats in the night when there are plenty of broadcasters out there.

Please discuss your opinions?
 
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soul17

Pondgirl said:
I think Simon Mayo's great too. I can take or leave David Essex.
I was never that keen on him, he started off on local hospital radio down here. Is often about, visiting his Mum.
A few years back he was in Marks & Sparks, jumped the queue and raised his shades up and said to the cashier "Don't you know who i am". She told him to wait his turn, he stormed off in a huff. Probably listening to him always gives me the impression that he is a bit smug. Still maybe he is ok :wink:
 
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scorpio

God, I hate people like that.. :shock:

What they should be doing, in my opinion, is utilising their assets. Give more daytime hours to Stu Mac, Mark Rad, and Johnnie Walker. Or scouting for fresh talented people who understand and have a knowledge of music.

They seem to be under a misaprehension that Radio 2 listeners want to hear overblown celebs, who put in a lacklustre and mediocre performance.

Just my opinion, but does anyone else find this attitude patronising and insulting?

I caught that George Lamb(?) on a trailer..I honestly thought it was a joke/parody..ala KY TV.

I can't help but feel their are hidden agendas being operated here, that bear no relation to what the Radio 2 listeners actually want.
 
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Mike Reynolds

I could not agree more, Scorps. I listen to JW on a Sunday (though quite often on Listen Again), and Ken Bruce on a weekday morning, and that's about it, now Stu has left Saturdays. I suppose now we have a decent local station down here I have listened more to that over the last month, but it would be nice to have a choice to listen to R2.

As for Simon Mayo, always struck me as a smug, self centred prat, when he stood in for Evans over Easter I thought he was even worse than the Ginger one. Insulting and patronising, always interrupting guests and the travel reporter, and shouting. Don't these people realise they have microphones?
 
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soul17

Proper DJ's, ones that have done their apprenticeships in radio, ones that are passionate and knowledgable and easy on the ears, not the ones who spout off about themselves all the time. Not celebs who have no interest or knowledge. There are some good DJ's on local radio.
I say get Mike "the passionate, fountain of musical knowledge type bloke" Reynolds on the decks mate........not arf.
 
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Helen May

scorpio said:
I can't help but feel their are hidden agendas being operated here, that bear no relation to what the Radio 2 listeners actually want.
Hi Scorpio,

I feel the same way and find I'm listening to R2 less and less these days and just switching the radio off. The trouble is where else do you go? There was a long letter in the Mail the other week from a listener, older than us, berating the lack of 'their type of music'. I had to agree with everything he said as it will be the very same for us probably sooner than we think the way things are going at R2!

I really think something needs to be done to stop the rot setting in any further but what do you do and who do you approach?

At least it was good to see that we aren't the only ones who feel like we do and it begs the question, does anyone 'really' like Radio 2 the way it is now?

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Mike Reynolds

Thanks Soulman!

Helen, I agree, I'm 40, and R2 is, for the most part, too chav-like for me. It's now, to my mind worse than R1 was when I stopped listening to that in around 1994.

Scary thought.
 
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soul17

Hi H.
I listen to a number of different stations nowdays. Obviously it depends which type of music you like, but i tend to listen to Soul etc and trawl around different stations to find out when something of interest to me is on.
Mike put up that Exeter station last night and i tuned in.
Down here the Worthing station is Splash FM, as i said a while back Diddy Dave set up the station and he does a slot on there. They also have a soul slot. I listen to Heart FM and Talk Sport FM. I rarely listen to R2 now.
Maybe a thread set up about forthcoming music, with the station and type of programme on might interest some posters? If you like what you see and are about, you can tune in. It might help some of us dissolutioned music listeners eh.
 
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Helen May

I know there are loads of other stations but I prefer to be able to switch on my radio in whatever room I'm in. I'm don't have a DAB radio and my wifi radio keeps loosing the signal.

Also I'm not a fan of single genre stations as after a while I get bored with them. R2 at least gives a selection of genres but it's their presenters that I now find off putting.

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Mike Reynolds

Yes, Helen,

The music selection on R2 isn't too bad, most especially on the specialist shows, but the presenters, in many cases, a) don't care about music and b) don't seem to give a damn about the listeners. Be interesting to see the listening figures when RAJAR publishes them again. But, to me, for much of the time, R2 is just R1 and a half, with not enough differences betwen their output and that of any given local station.

You can hear the Sugababes, for example on R1, 2, and every local station in the country whereas when do you get to hear Matt Monro and the like? I like a wide variety of music, and think that R2 is dangerously slipping down the road of 'narrowcasting' both in terms of presenters, and to a lesser, but still important, extent, the music selection, too. Nowhere is this more noticable than on 'Pick of the Pops' which plays the songs that we are all over-familiar with, and, generally misses out on the ones rarely played, which strikes me as pointless.
 
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scorpio

I agree with every word you guys have said. It just seems so much common sense.

Why pay over the odds for naff celebs, when they can get people that love their music?

I have R2 on because I hate fiddling with dials..I just listen in car, cooking etc..but I think I'll be listening to my CDs more when I can.

What R2 had was wonderful, diverse music, entertaining presenters..it all seems to have gone horribly wrong.
 
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Mike Reynolds

This may seem slightly like stating the obvious, but, although the rot had begun to set in before the R2 boards were changed late in 2006 (when this wonderful board was set up), things really have gone downhill on R2 since the change of the MBs. And, surely, that is the reason why they were changed and posters were no longer allowed to discuss the station?

Because the 'powers that be' knew the decisions made by Douglas would be hugely unpopular they have decided to stick their fingers in their ears and go 'la la la, ne ne ne, can't hear you' like some spoiled kid. Pathetic.
 
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Lord Evan Elpuss

I think this slightly altered message (below) which I put up on the r2 ok site pretty well sums up how I feel about what's happened to R2 since Lesley 'disaster area' Douglas took over. I agree with what others have said on here. When Matthew Bannister decided that I and my generation was too old for Radio 1, at least then I had Radio 2 to turn to, but now Douglas is doing her best to destroy Radio 2, where do I go? 6 music could have been an alternative but Douglas runs that too, and as I've said before in other messages, she's messed that up just as badly. Scorps, can you imagine three hours of George Lamb? That's what he's got over at 6 music, luckily the trailers for that alone are warning enough for me to stay well away from 6 music between 10:00am-1:00pm and stick with R2! Do have a look at this thread on the 6 music message boards about him, and it is now very long, the vast majority of messages are anti-Lamb: http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mb6music/F1950413?thread=5020256 I agree with those that say why not trawl around the local radio stations and give proper jocks a chance at national radio? At present, what chance do any have of hitting 'the big time'? I'd say none at the moment. Once upon a time, In the days when I could flick between Radio 1 & local radio (even ILR) you would hear or read (there was no internet then) about how DJs had started there careers on small stations like the United Biscuits network. Anyone remember that? Sadly, it seems not any more. In case anyone's wondering, here's where Lesley 'I love Big Brother' Douglas has got many of those Radio 2 / 6 Comedy, Chat - oops sorry- Music's presenters from: http://www.johnnoelmanagement.com/

I find I'm now listening to Radio 2 less & less and now Stuart's Saturday show has gone, nowhere will this be more apparent than on Saturdays, when once I never wanted to go out anywhere because there was so much good stuff on. Remember the days when this was the Saturday line up? Because I was working on Saturday mornings, I invariably missed Mo Dutta & Sounds Of The 60s and I was woken up by Janey Lee Grace as I was on an early shift. The only show I'd turn off was Jonathan Ross, the music might be good but the 'banter' just isn't for me. Then R2 would be on continuously from the Comedy hour which had gems like News Huddlines included in it; POTP; Richard Allinson; Paul Gambaccini; at one time I think Jack Docherty had Saturday Night Jack and later it was Stuart Maconie's original Critical List; a live gig / documentary and finally Bob Harris until I just had to give in and go to bed. Then along came one Lesley Douglas who just had to start tinkering & tinkering with it some more until we get the mess we have now. If our very own 'Nostradamus' is right then from next month I'll be switching off from the end of SOTS right up until Bob Harris at 11:00pm. I don't expect to like everything I hear on a radio station but no-one should have to switch off for the best part of the day, especially at the behest of an inept controller. Once I might have tried 6 music, however she's messed that right up as well, with a weekend schedule more or less filled with less than funny (IMO) comedians & their various 'yes-men / women' paid to laugh on cue. One wag on their message boards suggested that the station's name be changed to '6 chat' or perhaps '6 comedy'. The only saving grace there on a Saturday daytime is Liz Kershaw. Perhaps BBC7 should now be catering for the former Radio 2/ 6 music audience, with the music being played by real DJs. But don't put Lesley Douglas in charge of it,!! Here's a snapshot of Radio 2's better days (especially saturdays) http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/newcastle/index.shtml
 
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Ian Mac

Helen, for me at work, It's Alex Lester, not bothered about Sarah Kennedy, Oor Tel, Ken Bruce, Oor Jezza, Over to Radio Scotland for Tom Morton, and i'm usually back in the yard by then, so don't hear any more. I also like Mark and Stu, but don't always get a chance to hear them, Bob Harris, Paul Jones, Milke Harding and Janice Long.

So i still get a fair enjoyment out of the radio, but i take your point about Douglas and her insidious effect on the station.
 
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Helen May

I'm starting to record some shows to my hard drive using a program I have called Total Recorder. Some I've not even listened to but I dip in when there is nothing to listen to. I'm saving them for the future if R2 becomes unbearable.

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